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	<title>Comments on: Print&#8217;s Comeback, Dressed in a Swim Suit</title>
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		<title>By: jim wilson</title>
		<link>http://gnbuzz.com/2009/12/09/prints-comeback-dressed-in-a-swim-suit/#comment-140</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ho hum...

what about this is so great?

really? how is this sooooo incredibly better than what I get for free NOW on the Internet -- with a free web browser?

that I can shift the pages around and zoom in and out really neat? um, hate to break it to you, but that aint worth paying hundreds of dollars for.

and, the &quot;video&quot; that is shown at the beginning is kind of cool.. but, I can already watch the actual game itself LIVE in HD for free (on a larger screen)

so, aside from a few little do-dads (that are hardly worth hundreds of dollars) I dont see this taking off...

sorry]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ho hum&#8230;</p>
<p>what about this is so great?</p>
<p>really? how is this sooooo incredibly better than what I get for free NOW on the Internet &#8212; with a free web browser?</p>
<p>that I can shift the pages around and zoom in and out really neat? um, hate to break it to you, but that aint worth paying hundreds of dollars for.</p>
<p>and, the &#8220;video&#8221; that is shown at the beginning is kind of cool.. but, I can already watch the actual game itself LIVE in HD for free (on a larger screen)</p>
<p>so, aside from a few little do-dads (that are hardly worth hundreds of dollars) I dont see this taking off&#8230;</p>
<p>sorry</p>
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		<title>By: glennnelson</title>
		<link>http://gnbuzz.com/2009/12/09/prints-comeback-dressed-in-a-swim-suit/#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[glennnelson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John, of course you are upset. You otherwise wouldn&#039;t end your posts with insults. There is no advertising or other revenue generators on this blog. This is my hobby and it will continue to &quot;survive&quot; as long as my interest and time holds.

And, yes, of course I&#039;d say the L.A. didn&#039;t just cut its staff, it diminished its product. Most businesses can play the same game -- cut expenses until revenues exceed them.

Also, Seattle and Denver aren&#039;t the only cities with newspaper closures the past few years. But we&#039;re getting way off point. How do you propose that daily newspaper websites improve revenue? The part of the game of aggregating eyeballs that pays off (national advertising and sponsorships) is beyond any single newspaper. The chain model is failing. I&#039;m not saying newspaper sites won&#039;t ever make money, but there&#039;s no proven model -- and you are not citing one, at least not a feasible one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, of course you are upset. You otherwise wouldn&#8217;t end your posts with insults. There is no advertising or other revenue generators on this blog. This is my hobby and it will continue to &#8220;survive&#8221; as long as my interest and time holds.</p>
<p>And, yes, of course I&#8217;d say the L.A. didn&#8217;t just cut its staff, it diminished its product. Most businesses can play the same game &#8212; cut expenses until revenues exceed them.</p>
<p>Also, Seattle and Denver aren&#8217;t the only cities with newspaper closures the past few years. But we&#8217;re getting way off point. How do you propose that daily newspaper websites improve revenue? The part of the game of aggregating eyeballs that pays off (national advertising and sponsorships) is beyond any single newspaper. The chain model is failing. I&#8217;m not saying newspaper sites won&#8217;t ever make money, but there&#8217;s no proven model &#8212; and you are not citing one, at least not a feasible one.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://gnbuzz.com/2009/12/09/prints-comeback-dressed-in-a-swim-suit/#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Glenn,
You said the LA Times is &quot;hardly covering the costs&quot; of its newsroom with online revenue.
Sorry to prove you wrong:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jan/12/la-times-online-advertising

Yeah, you&#039;ll say &quot;it&#039;s because they cut their staff.&quot; Fine, but that wasn&#039;t my original point. And the other point that I made, that as revenue gets bigger at newspaper website - as it should because they are the market leaders in CONSISTENT daily traffic for what they provide - then the overall stability of their enterprises will finally level off again.
And, lots of newspapers folded before the Internet. A couple have in the last year - Seattle and Denver. That&#039;s a shame and I appreciate your concern for the overall industry. But there were other &quot;problems&quot; at the papers that folded than just lack of readership.
And, you didn&#039;t make me mad at all. I just chuckle when I read all you doomsayers about the newspaper business. I would worry more about the surivability of fad blogs and websites like this one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn,<br />
You said the LA Times is &#8220;hardly covering the costs&#8221; of its newsroom with online revenue.<br />
Sorry to prove you wrong:<br />
<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jan/12/la-times-online-advertising" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jan/12/la-times-online-advertising</a></p>
<p>Yeah, you&#8217;ll say &#8220;it&#8217;s because they cut their staff.&#8221; Fine, but that wasn&#8217;t my original point. And the other point that I made, that as revenue gets bigger at newspaper website &#8211; as it should because they are the market leaders in CONSISTENT daily traffic for what they provide &#8211; then the overall stability of their enterprises will finally level off again.<br />
And, lots of newspapers folded before the Internet. A couple have in the last year &#8211; Seattle and Denver. That&#8217;s a shame and I appreciate your concern for the overall industry. But there were other &#8220;problems&#8221; at the papers that folded than just lack of readership.<br />
And, you didn&#8217;t make me mad at all. I just chuckle when I read all you doomsayers about the newspaper business. I would worry more about the surivability of fad blogs and websites like this one.</p>
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		<title>By: glennnelson</title>
		<link>http://gnbuzz.com/2009/12/09/prints-comeback-dressed-in-a-swim-suit/#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[glennnelson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mary, point taken. Being a guy I struggled with a male image for what I was writing. I&#039;m not big on watching TV and, in my household, am not the one who controls the remote. :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary, point taken. Being a guy I struggled with a male image for what I was writing. I&#8217;m not big on watching TV and, in my household, am not the one who controls the remote. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mary a.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mary a.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If content were morsels, then we’re all fat ladies on the couch with boxes of half-eaten chocolates arrayed before us.&quot;
Nope..you&#039;re all just obese males playing with your remotes...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If content were morsels, then we’re all fat ladies on the couch with boxes of half-eaten chocolates arrayed before us.&#8221;<br />
Nope..you&#8217;re all just obese males playing with your remotes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Franco Tirado</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Franco Tirado]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cant wait to have this baby tablet so I can take it to the desert or suntan by the beach reading it...Dammit sand just fell of it and then some water... Now I cant read a darn thing... How much it will cost me to fix it??
Or &quot;hey I went and took a dip in the warm blue ocean and in less than 10 seconds some local or tourist walked away with my tablet. I need a real magazine..&quot;
Where is a real magazine to carry on my backpack?????
Ok after spending 4 hours looking at a computer screen who REALLY wants to read a tablet before going to bed? Really no me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cant wait to have this baby tablet so I can take it to the desert or suntan by the beach reading it&#8230;Dammit sand just fell of it and then some water&#8230; Now I cant read a darn thing&#8230; How much it will cost me to fix it??<br />
Or &#8220;hey I went and took a dip in the warm blue ocean and in less than 10 seconds some local or tourist walked away with my tablet. I need a real magazine..&#8221;<br />
Where is a real magazine to carry on my backpack?????<br />
Ok after spending 4 hours looking at a computer screen who REALLY wants to read a tablet before going to bed? Really no me.</p>
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		<title>By: glennnelson</title>
		<link>http://gnbuzz.com/2009/12/09/prints-comeback-dressed-in-a-swim-suit/#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[glennnelson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike, you raise good points about production. I think John&#039;s concerns about cost will be assuaged over time. As technology and economies of scale improve, the cost of these devices will go down. I&#039;m only saying about myself, Sagittarius that I am, that I would spend a few hundred to be one of the first to get these. I also slightly misspoke (mis-wrote?) in suggesting that the tablet should be dedicated to a single magazine. I meant that I would not have browsing capabilities. One of the challenges of websites today is keeping people on site. I think we users are too ADD and therefore to quick to click. The tablet looks to provide such a thorough and satisfying experience, one should not play into the desire to click away.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, you raise good points about production. I think John&#8217;s concerns about cost will be assuaged over time. As technology and economies of scale improve, the cost of these devices will go down. I&#8217;m only saying about myself, Sagittarius that I am, that I would spend a few hundred to be one of the first to get these. I also slightly misspoke (mis-wrote?) in suggesting that the tablet should be dedicated to a single magazine. I meant that I would not have browsing capabilities. One of the challenges of websites today is keeping people on site. I think we users are too ADD and therefore to quick to click. The tablet looks to provide such a thorough and satisfying experience, one should not play into the desire to click away.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://gnbuzz.com/2009/12/09/prints-comeback-dressed-in-a-swim-suit/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For people who actually love magazines, the iTab (or whatever device takes prominence) is a godsend. Is it going to convert the pure web addicts who decided print was irrelevant 10 years ago? No. But I would love a device that gave me the full National Geographic experience, or Wired, or The Economist, or New York, without the stacks of pages in my apartment or weighing down my bookbag.

But for people who actually love carefully edited information and sumptuous packaging (the best) magazines are known for, the SI demo is absolutely stunning. It&#039;s the first real hint at what&#039;s possible in an environment where you can combine the speed of digital delivery, portability to read on the toilet/bed/couch/bus/whatever, and retains the awesome design and presentation of the best magazines out there.

On the business end, it will eliminate the costs of paper and distribution -- by far the highest cost of producing magazines. It&#039;s not staff or creating content that eats up revenue. It&#039;s putting that darn stuff on paper and shipping it around the country/world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For people who actually love magazines, the iTab (or whatever device takes prominence) is a godsend. Is it going to convert the pure web addicts who decided print was irrelevant 10 years ago? No. But I would love a device that gave me the full National Geographic experience, or Wired, or The Economist, or New York, without the stacks of pages in my apartment or weighing down my bookbag.</p>
<p>But for people who actually love carefully edited information and sumptuous packaging (the best) magazines are known for, the SI demo is absolutely stunning. It&#8217;s the first real hint at what&#8217;s possible in an environment where you can combine the speed of digital delivery, portability to read on the toilet/bed/couch/bus/whatever, and retains the awesome design and presentation of the best magazines out there.</p>
<p>On the business end, it will eliminate the costs of paper and distribution &#8212; by far the highest cost of producing magazines. It&#8217;s not staff or creating content that eats up revenue. It&#8217;s putting that darn stuff on paper and shipping it around the country/world.</p>
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		<title>By: glennnelson</title>
		<link>http://gnbuzz.com/2009/12/09/prints-comeback-dressed-in-a-swim-suit/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[glennnelson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 16:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John, I&#039;m sorry this made you so angry. I don&#039;t think even newspaper people would share your rosy outlook on their industry. In case you haven&#039;t noticed, some newspapers have folded and the ones that have not have made massive cuts. None are realizing significant revenue from their websites (the L.A. Times, which has made several workforce cuts, closed sections of its newspaper and raised the price of its newspaper, hardly is covering the cost of its news operations with Web revenue). Advertising, once up, is now down on the Web because of the economy, so the game no longer is &quot;capturing eyeballs.&quot; Of course Web traffic is growing on newspaper sites; who wouldn&#039;t want to leach off the expensive efforts of a dwindling number of hard-working professionals?

I doubt I&#039;ll convince you of anything, but I want others to know that I do NOT want newspapers and magazines to fail. I have been sounding the alarm (and doing so for 10 years) because I want them all to wake up. I spent nearly 20 years in the print industry. I have friends who are out of work and scared. And I love print products. I subscribe to two newspapers and dozens of other periodicals. But my love of a product does not obscure my understanding that their presence is much endangered.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, I&#8217;m sorry this made you so angry. I don&#8217;t think even newspaper people would share your rosy outlook on their industry. In case you haven&#8217;t noticed, some newspapers have folded and the ones that have not have made massive cuts. None are realizing significant revenue from their websites (the L.A. Times, which has made several workforce cuts, closed sections of its newspaper and raised the price of its newspaper, hardly is covering the cost of its news operations with Web revenue). Advertising, once up, is now down on the Web because of the economy, so the game no longer is &#8220;capturing eyeballs.&#8221; Of course Web traffic is growing on newspaper sites; who wouldn&#8217;t want to leach off the expensive efforts of a dwindling number of hard-working professionals?</p>
<p>I doubt I&#8217;ll convince you of anything, but I want others to know that I do NOT want newspapers and magazines to fail. I have been sounding the alarm (and doing so for 10 years) because I want them all to wake up. I spent nearly 20 years in the print industry. I have friends who are out of work and scared. And I love print products. I subscribe to two newspapers and dozens of other periodicals. But my love of a product does not obscure my understanding that their presence is much endangered.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s another fact that smug &quot;newspapers are dead&quot; geeks like yourself fail to realize: as papers continue to grow traffic on their websites (and it&#039;s growing - just check out the latest numbers at sites like ComScore) and they get better, they&#039;ll eventually monetize them much better. It&#039;s already happening. At many big papers, the revenue from their websites is coming close to funing ALL of their newsroom expenses (LA Times is one example).
AND, newspapers STILL have another revenue source: it&#039;s called the newspaper. You know, that thing on paper, lots of ink on it, lots of words, lots of original reporting in it that isn&#039;t found anywhere else? Yeah, people still pay for that turns out. Maybe not as much as they once did, but enough. 
So newspapers have TWO good sources of revenue going forward: online and print. Digital geeks have ONE - their geek digital sites.
So really, it is the Geekdom that is behind the curve when it comes to making money off of content in the New Age. 
Enjoy the ride to irrelevancy, cyber man.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another fact that smug &#8220;newspapers are dead&#8221; geeks like yourself fail to realize: as papers continue to grow traffic on their websites (and it&#8217;s growing &#8211; just check out the latest numbers at sites like ComScore) and they get better, they&#8217;ll eventually monetize them much better. It&#8217;s already happening. At many big papers, the revenue from their websites is coming close to funing ALL of their newsroom expenses (LA Times is one example).<br />
AND, newspapers STILL have another revenue source: it&#8217;s called the newspaper. You know, that thing on paper, lots of ink on it, lots of words, lots of original reporting in it that isn&#8217;t found anywhere else? Yeah, people still pay for that turns out. Maybe not as much as they once did, but enough.<br />
So newspapers have TWO good sources of revenue going forward: online and print. Digital geeks have ONE &#8211; their geek digital sites.<br />
So really, it is the Geekdom that is behind the curve when it comes to making money off of content in the New Age.<br />
Enjoy the ride to irrelevancy, cyber man.</p>
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